Unboxing ABM

Unboxing ABM

Episode: 4

In this episode of Unboxing ABM, Anand Ramakrishnan, VP of Marketing at Tech Mahindra, shares why ABM for enterprise companies is not about running targeted ads at intent signals, it’s about shaping demand across the entire buying journey.

We discussed why marketers in complex B2B sales must shift from demand generation to demand shaping, how the marketer’s role fundamentally transforms in a one-to-one ABM program, and why measuring ABM purely by pipeline is one of the most common reasons these programs never get off the ground.

Anand's ABM Principles:

When the conditions are right, ABM is your entire go-to-market: If your deal sizes are large, your sales cycles are long, and you have named accounts with active sales coverage, there's no reason to run any other kind of marketing alongside it. ABM gives you the biggest return, but only if it's treated as the central motion, not an add-on.

Demand shaping is not demand generation: In complex sales, marketing's job isn't to get someone to click an ad and fill out a form. It's to prepare the ground for conversion by building brand presence within target accounts, creating account-specific content across digital and in-person channels, and reducing friction for sales. The conversion happens, but marketing doesn't lead it alone.

In one-to-one ABM, the marketer must be the alter ego of the sales lead: They need to deeply understand the account, the competition, and the customer's unresolved problems, then translate that into a focused content and engagement strategy. Order-takers won't cut it. The right people, with real business empathy, are what make this motion work.

“Start small and set expectations about what ABM is, what can be achieved, and what it takes to make it successful. Show small successes and then scale because that’s what really brings in more people from the sales side and the rest of the organization.” — Anand Ramakrishnan, VP Marketing, Tech Mahindra
  • 00:00 – Unboxing ABM: Snippet
  • 02:18 – Anand’s marketing journey: From Infosys to Tech Mahindra across services and product companies
  • 03:42 – The full-stack marketer: Why breadth across marketing functions matters
  • 06:20 – Product vs. services marketing: The three non-negotiables (Product, Competition, Customer)
  • 08:13 – Empathy as the #1 skill when hiring marketers
  • 09:40 – What ABM means for large IT companies with complex sales cycles
  • 15:48 – Demand shaping vs. demand generation: Why the distinction matters
  • 19:55 – One-to-one vs. one-to-many ABM: How the marketer’s role changes
  • 29:26 – ABM playbooks that actually works
  • 34:30 – The hardest part of ABM: Creating content that solves customer problems
  • 38:56 – Three challenges in ABM: Sales alignment, infrastructure, and skills
  • 43:04 – Minimum martech stack required to get started with ABM
  • 44:55 – Advice for marketers: Start small, prove success, then scale

Frequently Asked Questions

  • Demand shaping is the practice of preparing target accounts for conversion through brand presence, account-specific content, and multi-channel engagement — rather than trying to generate leads through forms and ad clicks. Unlike demand generation, the conversion in demand shaping is not led by marketing alone; it's a joint outcome with sales.

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